From TheFutureOf (10 Jul 08): Back into the fray

by Joseph Carrabis on July 3rd, 2009

Back into the fray

Proving that Serendipity is doing it’s job, I’ve had in my mind that it’s time to return to these thoughts and several people contacted me to find out if I was going to return to this blog.

Okay. Into the deep end first.

My time away has been due to busyness. Perhaps some readers have heard, NextStage Received its first patent on its Evolution Technology. For years we’ve been intentionally below the radar, now we seem to be becoming a recognizable object rapidly approaching from the far horizon. Now that we’ve left nap-of-the-earth flying I’m able to discuss things more openly, me thinks, hence some of my responses now and in the future.

Are the visitors happy?

One of the things I did while I was away was talk with a few people (about 100 so far) about what I’ll call The Purpose of Web Analytics. I did this research because of something I wrote in this thread above, “…all these analytics are worthless unless they create happy, satisfied visitors, yes?”

I’ve talked with upper management in education, politics, at national telecoms, financial institutions, transportation, recreation, … a pretty diverse group. Most of them were involved in marketing products or services or some other form of gaining marketshare. None of them were web analysts or involved in web analytics except that they received reports and were expected to act upon them. None of them were particularly happy about being made accountable to a system that (they believed) wasn’t measuring … and here’s where the challenges really made themselves known.

What was being measured? Lots of money was being spent and lots of people were being told that the measurements mattered and as one fellow explained, for the amount of money they were spending they expected some consistency.

“What do you mean by consistency?” I asked.

He pretty much didn’t know. He and those with him said lots of things and it could be distilled to a general dissatisfaction that there wasn’t a single model that they could consistently use and derive actionable meaning from. The dissatisfaction grew geometrically when the discussion got into executives making decisions based on sales presentations rather than a given product’s specific informational abilities.

At one point I leaned towards a speaker and quietly said, “Remember, Joseph friend,” and everybody laughed because the tension in the room was broken.

I reference these anecdotes because one of my original hopes for this platform was an increase in understanding and acceptance of some mutual goals regardless of discipline or tool platform.

In the end, doesn’t it all come down to “…all these analytics are worthless unless they create happy, satisfied visitors…?”

If I can’t act on it, it doesn’t exist

The next item I wish to thread into this discussion comes from an online conversation I had with Critical Mass’s Christopher Berry about why web analytics seems to be a harder sell in Canada than in the US. You can follow my side of the conversation in Canadian Based Business Differences — Responding to June Li, Christopher Berry and Jacques Warren, Responding to Christopher Berry’s Vexing Problem, Part 3 post, The Language of Web Analytics – The Hard(er) Sell in Canada, Responding to Christopher Berry’s “A Vexing Problem, Part 4″ Post, Part 1, Responding to Christopher Berry’s “A Vexing Problem, Part 4″ Post, Part 2 and Communicating Science to Business and Vice Versa and links are provided to Christopher Berry’s side on the conversation in those posts. I’ll invite people to pay particular attention to Communicating Science to Business and Vice Versa because (and as Mr. Berry noted) the summation is what counts, “Business is different. Business (me thinks) tends to be more ‘Tell me how to use this’ hence most business proposals and reports start with Christopher Berry’s nuggets then go into explanations.”

My research is convincing me that (what I recognize as traditional) web analytics is going to be losing its authoritative power in the coming years. I think web analytics (and yes, this does go back to my original hopes for this blog) will evolve (just as anything will if it is going to survive in a given changing environment). What will it do and look like? I have some ideas, of course. Just ideas at present, though. More things to research before putting down on paper (or in a blog) at present.

This does tie into my comment re Avinash Kaushik’s “…we shouldn’t use ill defined engagement metrics as a proxy for something solid like a sale.” I’ve been an oft-times unwilling father-confessor to businesses frustrated by ill-defined metrics of any kind and wanting something that is justifiable a) financially, b) scientifically, c) arithmetically (forget mathematically) and d) produces some kind of “do A, get B”, “this-equals-that” link between action and outcome.

The comment I love about this is “If I can’t act on it then it doesn’t exist”, ie, it’s noise, a distraction at best and something best ignored. This was a wonderful statement used in a business practices discussion.

I’d really enjoy being involved in a web understandability/measurement/future usability discussion that has as its theme “If I can’t act on it then it doesn’t exist.”

“To measure and analyze on and offline behavior and then try to predict who to market to by figuring out what they think is not doable with one tool or one metric.”

I responded earlier to this comment. People who attended either the Toronto ‘08 or SF ‘08 eMetrics conferences are probably well aware by now that NextStage has patented a technology that can determine how someone is thinking through any programmable device. I won’t go deeper into the topic here except to offer a comment I posted on Jim Novo’s blog about the {C,B/e,M} matrix and its use in marketing and analytics.

Picking up where I left off with Jim Novo’s comments in this thread…

I finally had an opportunity to read Jim Novo’s Measuring Engagement and its related Framework for Engagement posts. I truly enjoy Jim’s writing style and the points he makes.

I especially enjoy and appreciate his referencing Relationship Marketing because it places people center stage. Understand people and you can both understand and predict what they’ll do. Watch only what people have done and you can only understand their actions in a specific historical context, you can only predict what they’ll do when the confluence of events that led to their original actions repeats itself. Exactly (and don’t hold your breath). Relationship marketing works at the question “…all these analytics are worthless unless they create happy, satisfied visitors, yes?”

Jim writes “The challenge with this model – and probably why it isn’t more widely known – has been the data, it’s a very analysis-intensive model…”. Yes. Agreed. If Jim (or others familiar with these concepts) is reading (or perhaps at the next conference we meet at), I think this is where being able to substitute cognitive heuristic models makes sense (see Liberation and Heuristics or Responding to Christopher Berry’s “A Vexing Problem, Part 4″ Post, Part 1. I’ve also written elsewhere that I often wonder why more businesses don’t make use of cognitive heuristic models).

For example, I’ve recently been applying heuristic models to helping adult second language learners increase their language acquisition abilities. That’s a traditionally very tough nut to crack and (so far, anyway) I’ve been able to isolate neural activity that tends to make adult language acquisition challenging. Example 2, using heuristic models in the above grew out of learning which heuristic models are used (non-consciously, of course) by which personality types in their decision making processes. This non-conscious heuristic model selection process is being integrated into NextStage’s Rich Personae. These and some other areas of my studies are intensely data-rich models that can be reasonably simplified via cognitive heuristics.

Engagement-Satisfaction QuadrantsI also strongly like your concept of dis-engagement, although I tend to use a methodology that incorporates “satisfaction” into the scaling system (see Meet Online Engagement’s Little Friend, Satisfaction. I shared that the complete form of this during a discussion at the SF ‘08 eMetrics. It looks something like the figure on the right.

Some definitions to help in understanding; the x-axis is Engagement and is a measure of the amount of pleasure or pain an activity is giving you. If something is giving you either pleasure or pain to any degree your attention is focused on it, hence you are engaged by it according to the definitions documented in Attention, Engagement and Trust: The Internet Trinity and Websites. The y-axis is Satisfaction and is a measure of acceptance and rejection of some internal state and/or external event.

I believe what you are referencing as “dis-engagement” is what we recognize as the slide from high acceptance to “0″ acceptance. Note that this is not rejection (as rejection is an active negation of acceptance) it is a lack of acceptance. I appreciate that the difference might be subtle and I believe that difference is significant. Rejection — the active negation of acceptance — can be thought of as someone pushing something away. Zero-acceptance is the point where one can “take it or leave it” and the internal state and/or external event does not have any value assigned to it, hence doesn’t register strongly in the mind/brain.

Mapping this figure to real world experience, you always want visitors/consumer/etc to be in the first quadrant (where the green curve is). People are both positively engaged (they like what’s going on) and positively satisfied (they accept it gladly). Depending on what you’re selling you may or may not want people in those other quadrants. The second quadrant (bottom yellow curve) indicates someone focusing on painful experiences or information, the fourth quadrant (top yellow curve) indicates someone who finds pleasure in painful experiences or information. The third quadrant (red curve) is where visitors/consumers/etc often end up and marketers/businesses don’t want them to be — the former are actively psychologically and physically moving themselves away from a business/product/service.

I’ll offer that the above is also a reasonable representation of your:
1. Define / Measure Engagement – any way you want to, as appropriate for your business; whatever activity or combinations of activity you feel appropriate
2. Measure dis-Engagement – the absence of Engagement, as in the visitor / customer stopped doing whatever it is you define as Engagement for your business model

I think where the image above (and the math behind it) adds real value is with your “3. Take some kind of Marketing or Service action to slow or reverse the dis-Engagement with dis-Engaging folks” because it provides enough information to know how, exactly, visitors/etc are “right now” interacting with your marketing information.

I also agree whole-heartedly with your statements about predicting “dis-engagement”, etc.. I would love to see the data you used in your example and apply it to the above. I’m willing to bet that satisfaction/acceptance was the real driver (and I won’t get into the depths of group satisfaction/acceptance states here (really, Joseph? You’re going to leave something out? Whatever for?)). I did get a kick out of your graph of email response rates falling over time. It was very similar to the results we found in our research on how to design an effective email newsletter. Bravo! I always love it when our findings match others’. Gives me hope we’re doing something right.

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For what it’s worth, much of the rest of what you’ve written in your post is so close to what we learned in our email newsletter research that the overlap is astounding. Not surprising, I guess, as you’re listing an email-based experiment. It would be interesting to learn what else the rules we discovered pertain to. Let me know if would like to explore this.
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You also list an implication about sending different messages to different segments. Yes, agreed. I believe the above allows for much more targeted and action-driven messaging (based on much of what I’ve shared above).

Perhaps, in the end, we’ve derived nothing more than a simplified mathematical model (complete with suggestions for better outcomes) of Relationship Marketing?

Whoosh!

Took me two days to put the above together folks. Sorry for the delay. More to follow. Soon.

Promise.

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